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Susan Oleksiw's avatar

I'm glad to see John Gardner cited; he seems to have followed several predecessors into creeping oblivion, but for many years he was one of my favorite writers and thinkers about writing.

Lev Raphael's avatar

I liked reading his advice when I started my career.

Susan Oleksiw's avatar

That does seem to be his role/place in the writing universe now--introducing beginners to ways of thinking about the craft.

Lev Raphael's avatar

A great legacy.

Terry Odell's avatar

And Hemingway didn't say "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed."

Lev Raphael's avatar

True. It likely came from a sportswriter talking about doing a daily column--in which case it seems a tad hyperbolic IMHO.

https://www.hemingwaysociety.org/quotation-controversy-writing-and-bleeding

M.E. Proctor's avatar

As a big fan of Henry Miller who has never read Walt Whitman ... famous is relative, for me, lol.

Lev Raphael's avatar

LOL indeed. But a poet who hasn't read Whitman? Tsk, tsk. :-)

M.E. Proctor's avatar

I would never call myself a poet, Lev! Even if I'm sensitive to the poetry of Noir.

Lev Raphael's avatar

My mistake--I'm typing through a migraine. I should go lie down now.

M.E. Proctor's avatar

I should still read Walt Whitman .... point well taken!

Lev Raphael's avatar

I also have enjoyed reading about him....he crops up in many biographies and histories.

Liz Gauffreau's avatar

Thank you for the Quote Investigator link! I've bookmarked it for future reference.

Lev Raphael's avatar

It's a valuable resource. When I was on FB, I would refer people to a lot.

Liz Gauffreau's avatar

Is Barlett’s Quotations still a reliable source for quote attributions? I haven’t thought of this reference book in years!

Lev Raphael's avatar

I use the Oxford book of quotations. ("a rotations" is what VR did. Yikes)

Liz Gauffreau's avatar

Thanks! I have a university library card, so I expect I'd be able to find it there.

Lev Raphael's avatar

It seems wider-ranging than Bartlett's as I recall from the last time I looked something up.

Richard Donnelly's avatar

"In the context of plotting a book, you’ve probably seen the lines “All great literature is one of two stories; a man goes on a journey or a stranger comes to town.”

Gotta say never heard this. Other than that, it states the obvious. Waking up is a journey. And a stranger coning to town? That actually sounds kinda good

David Perlmutter's avatar

If you want to know the often profound stuff Tolstoy actually said, you need to read his books.